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What is the ruling on one who says, "There is no Lord for me? There is Al-Ahly!" And to what extent is this statement considered disbelief (kufr)? And what is the ruling on the one who said it if he forgot his saying but prays and fasts? And what is the ruling on one who transmits this statement? And does the phrase "Whoever enters Al-Ahly Club is safe" take its speaker out of the fold of Islam? And what is the difference between doubt about falling into disbelief and certainty that a statement is an act of disbelief?

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The summary of the fatwa is that the questioner is afflicted with severe waswas (obsessive whispering), and should disregard it. The first statement is an apostasy from Islam, and its utterer must be advised to repent. The second phrase is abhorrent, but it does not amount to apostasy unless its utterer intended to mock the Prophet's hadith, peace and blessings be upon him. There is no contradiction between the two fatwas mentioned; the first one concerns someone who says, "Allah knows such and such," while being a liar. If he intended to lie, then he is sinful. If he intended to describe Allah as ignorant, then it is disbelief, along with a warning against indulging in waswas.

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