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Is the story of Malik ibn Dinar, which includes his communion with graves and the authenticity of his saying, "They all vanished, and there is no informant; and they all died, and the news died," authentic, and can it be used as an argument for the permissibility of communing with the dead?

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The story mentioned has appeared in several books and was narrated by Ibn al-Jawzi and Ibn Asakir. However, we have not found the ruling of the hadith scholars on their chains of transmission. Ibn Asakir's chain of transmission includes a narrator accused of fabricating hadith. This is a story of admonition that does not entail any action, nor can it be used to prove that the dead hear the words of the living.

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